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Tech stocks, Global - Google Facebook etc.
early birds
post Posted: Mar 23 2018, 03:20 PM
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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Mar 22 2018, 06:33 PM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ade-war-brewing

Tim Cook, chief executive officer of Apple, Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google, and Ginny Rometty, head of IBM, are scheduled to attend the China Development Forum, an annual gathering that helps Western corporations build relationships with the country’s government officials.
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whta's outcome of this???? lmaosmiley.gif
not looking good for both Trump and Xi.............



 
early birds
post Posted: Mar 22 2018, 10:07 PM
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what do you expect when offered something for "free".
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lmaosmiley.gif now you are talking nipper!! i guess most of people knows if use these type of thing from those US tech giant isn't safe that include EU officials --- they knew that long long times ago.

why they bring it up now?? because of trade war threat----tic for tac,.....all try to hit the spot that hurt opposition the most. IMHO though. tongue.gif

if you can work out how much tax revenue that US govt. collect from FANG then you might give my thoughts a good look. ohmy.gif

anyway, that isn't our biz. but looks Daq gonna to be hit if these things goes further ...



 
nipper
post Posted: Mar 22 2018, 06:33 PM
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nothing to do with that, eb. Your data isn't safe; and has been used to influence, among many things, elections. But then, what do you expect when offered something for "free".






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early birds
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So, why did it take so long?

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lmaosmiley.gif , untill Trump start trade war then EU start to target what's the best thing "export" for USA .
now it just started, will see more to come as Trump goes crazier .......... thumbdown.gif

get a tin foil hat nipper!! tongue.gif





 
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and a grab of other headlines :
- Zuckerberg vows steps to improve data protection
- Facebook just lost more than Tesla's entire market cap
- It's time to leave Facebook, here's why
- Zuckerberg's latest hollow message shows it is time to forget Facebook
- Mark Zuckerberg admits 'mistakes' over Facebook data scandal
- Three cheers for the European Commission's tax on tech
- How tech giants know so much
- The politics of data-mining ...etc, etc

Rogue apps, freak waves, one-in-100 year event. Hahaha

So, why did it take so long?



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nipper
post Posted: Mar 22 2018, 01:35 PM
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- it always seems to take this trajectory

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Cambridge Analytica exploited Facebook data
by John Gapper

It takes oodles of insouciance and ambition to exploit two global institutions in the way that Alexander Nix, chief executive of Cambridge Analytica, has done with Facebook and Cambridge University. But then they teach self-assurance at Eton College, the school he attended, in common with various UK prime ministers.

Mr Nix, who was suspended from his job on Tuesday, is now persona non grata at Facebook, having exposed its lax control over 2bn users' personal data. Nor is he popular with the university whose name his company adopted and whose research informed its work on Donald Trump's election campaign.

One lesson here is to beware executives with posh accents and good suits. "It is very flattering that . . . people might see us as having these incredible powers," Mr Nix told parliament last month. Perhaps, but he was the conjuror of the illusion. If not Mr Nix, it would have been someone equally brazen. Once Facebook found a way to get into the minds of consumers — and voters — precisely, and Cambridge university researchers had shown how that access could be exploited, a mess was inevitable.

The amount of online data available on everyone's behaviour and personality has exploded, not only on Facebook but via data brokers from Acxiom to Datatrust, Experian, Infogroup — the list goes on. Mr Nix packaged it all up nicely, with the help of Mr Trump's former aide Steve Bannon and Robert Mercer, the Trump-backing billionaire investor in Cambridge Analytica.

Cambridge Analytica is a lovely name for what is essentially an advertising agency, evoking disinterested academic research rather than the hyper-competitive business of persuading people to buy things or to vote for your client. In the world of big data, one person's thesis material is another's ad targeting tool.

The intellectual foundation of Cambridge Analytica's work for US politicians such as Texas senator Ted Cruz was research at the Cambridge university Psychometrics Centre. There, Michal Kosinski and others found that people's psychological profiles could be identified by analysing their social media accounts, including brands they had liked on Facebook.

As Prof Kosinski, who is now at Stanford, quickly realised, it was a short step from that to reverse engineering Facebook to deliver multiple ads targeted precisely on users' hopes and fears. Others realised this too, including Mr Nix's company SCL Group, which contracted Aleksandr Kogan, a lecturer in psychology at Cambridge, to collect data from Facebook users.

Mr Nix claims that efforts to integrate the Kogan data into his company's own services were "fruitless" and so it used other sources. In any case, SCL formed a US subsidiary, named Cambridge Analytica, to offer profiling and advertising models that owe a striking amount to Cambridge university's research. The university is justifiably unhappy about the brand confusion.

Meanwhile, Mr Nix made the most of Facebook. Dr Kogan obtained data with the consent of 270,000 users, who also gave the right to gather details of their friends, taking the total to 50m. Facebook has since tightened policies to prevent the latter happening.

It is remarkable how easily most of us are willing to share our data in return for free services. Equally remarkable is that Facebook has little effective means of stopping the misuse of data, apart from asking those who run applications on its platform to behave well, or suspending them if it notices misbehaviour. Facebook has never implemented safeguards that match the power of the data machine it created.

But Facebook is not the only data bank. The US is fertile territory for anyone with money who wants to amass the kind of personal, demographic and spending data about individuals that powers the models of Cambridge Analytica and others. Mr Nix's claim to hold between 4,000 and 5,000 data points on every American adult should be implausible, but is not.

Just as pioneers flocked to San Francisco during the Gold Rush, the data rush lures the Nixes of the world. Cambridge Analytica may have broken some rules, but its legacy is to have shown the influence that can be wielded without breaking them. As Mr Nix sadly protests, many other organisations are more quietly using similar methods.

Few sell them with such Old Etonian style, though. That is the trouble with advertising: it gets attention.
john.gapper@ft.com

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....after raising more than $US900 million [the collapse of Jawbone, which began liquidating proceedings in June after its fitness-tracker product failed to take off] provides a stark example of how the flood of cash pouring into Silicon Valley can have the perverse effect of sustaining companies that have no future, technology executives and financiers say. The irony is Jawbone could have been a suitable acquisition target some years ago, these people say, had it just kept its valuation lower by raising less money from venture capital and sovereign wealth funds.

"They are basically force-feeding capital into these companies," said Sramana Mitra, a tech entrepreneur and consultant, and founder and CEO of start-up accelerator One Million by One Million. "I expect there will be a lot more deaths by overfunding."

The Jawbone case also underscores the risks that non-traditional start-up investors such as sovereign wealth funds face as they ramp up investments in Silicon Valley. The Kuwait Investment Authority led a $US165 million investment in Jawbone just last year, when its prospects had already dimmed to the point that most of its original investors were unwilling to put up new funding.

These funds, which mange funds of hundreds of billions of dollars, invested $US12.7 billion in private tech companies last year, up from $US2.2 billion the year before, according to CB Insights.
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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne
 
nipper
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Someone smarter than me provided this, (we were talking about Magellan and the current discourse on AI etc)


"But ...jobs are going because of advances in communication, not, in my opinion, AI or Machine Learning.

Using the game Go being won by AI as an example of the inexorable advance of the machines is fraught. Real world AI has many more problems. The game Go is a simple binary game on a small discrete board. AI is absolutely nowhere near being able to replace the job of any upper-middle class professional.

And I don't think data is as valuable as people make it out to be. The valuation of Google, Facebook, or any other similar company that has a huge data set, is likely off. The valuation of their data sets makes a huge part of their overall valuation. And I've heard some people say that Google will always have a monopoly because of the amount of data that they currently have, and that they'll always be a few steps ahead of any other competitor that tries to get in the game.

This may be true, if a competitor tried to get in and compete in Google's game of searching and retrieving of the internet's data. But I think Google are a monopoly on data simply because they are a monopoly on data. They can just do the usual tactic of buying or competing out a competitor or startup.

I don't think Google's data has a unique insight in to the "fundamentals of human nature" from which they can simply predict the future. I think their data is highly skewed, biased, and over represented by the way people interact with technology. The way people interact with technology can change at the drop of a hat. Who knows what future apps, products, or legislative changes could change the way people interact with technology.

A big reason that Google and FB fight, at least nominally, the NSA, is because the NSA revelations made a measurable impact on people's openness on the internet. If people aren't open, the data is dishonest."



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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne
 
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I consider sectors such as biotech, Internet retail, health care technology and semiconductor equipment stocks as the most vulnerable.

My ideas are not a recommendation to either buy or sell any security, commodity or currency. Please do your own research prior to making any investment decisions.

 
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