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"English as she is spoke", Our language and its quirks
henrietta
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In Reply To: arty's post @ Yesterday, 01:43 PM

I don't know a hell of a lot more than I do know Arty. weirdsmiley.gif

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arty
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In Reply To: henrietta's post @ Yesterday, 01:19 PM

You surprised me, J
The prefix "ad" - usually alliterated to the next consonant - means "close" or "next to".
"ob" - similar treatment - means "against".

Therefore, apposite is the opposite of opposite - or so it made sense to me.
When I saw a native speaker with your usual expertise confessing to confusion, you had me worried and I looked it up as well. Needn't have bothered. blink.gif



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henrietta
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Me too, followed by looking up "apposite".
Are "virtue signallers" what we used to call "fakes" ?
I'm mostly just confused these days.

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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Jan 17 2017, 02:29 PM

nipper, I first had to look up "neologism" before I could proceed further.

"virtue signalling" I would take to be part of the neo-liberal hipster newspeak I would generally take back streets to avoid.



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nipper
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I find this neologism to be amazingly apposite

Virtue signalling is a generally pejorative characterization of the expression or promotion of viewpoints that are especially valued within a social group, especially when it is said to be done primarily to enhance the social standing of the speaker (Wikipedia)

Saying you love or hate something to show off what a virtuous person you are, instead of actually trying to fix the problem - (Urban Dictionary)

This columnist claims to have 'invented' the term : http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/i-inven...over-the-world/



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The nation's new word of the year is, in fact, two: "democracy sausage". That would be the snag in a bit of bread that you munch as you do your duty as a citizen of this great land and cast your vote. Australian National Dictionary Centre director Amanda Laugesen explains: "Arguably, the democracy sausage has been one of the best things to come out of a tumultuous year in politics and political campaigning … Its use was also boosted by a controversial incident where Opposition Leader Bill Shorten... ate his sausage from the middle." It is at this juncture that the nation finds itself.

For what it's worth, the shortlist included census fail, smashed avo, shoey, deplorables and Ausexit.
- I suspect more for the political elites than around the BBQ



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"Every long-term security is nothing more than a claim on some expected future stream of cash that will be delivered into the hands of investors over time. For a given stream of expected future cash payments, the higher the price investors pay today for that stream of cash, the lower the long-term return they will achieve on their investment over time."
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I usually approach such Announcements/ statements with foreboding ... and see the shareprice reflects that concern

in this case, it reads like bad news, yet VTG is up 14% today. The devil is in the details (in a red dress).



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henrietta
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FOOTPRINT OPTIMISATION AND COMMERCIAL TERMS AGREED
25 November 2016
ASX-listed provider of communications, electronics and ICT products and services, Vita Group (ASX: VTG) is pleased to announce that it has agreed changes to its commercial terms with strategic partner, Telstra. Under the agreed new terms, the remuneration structure will change and there will also be additions to the group’s network of Telstra-branded stores.
In relation to the remuneration changes, some elements of remuneration will reduce, where they have been deemed to be less effective in driving value. This will be partially offset by an increase in remuneration designed to incentivise the sale of a broader range of product solutions to customers.
On the store network, Vita will accelerate its physical optimisation program, involving both additions and exits, which will result in an overall increase in the number of Telstra-branded stores, with the number of additional stores to be communicated in due course.
The net impact of these changes on earnings is difficult to determine, given that many elements of the remuneration construct are performance-driven, as has always been the case. However, Vita expects to see volume improvement overall, offset by some margin compression.
This announcement follows recent negotiations between Vita and Telstra about strategic and tactical opportunities available to the partnership. As noted in Vita’s letter to the ASX on 1 November 2016, these discussions occur frequently and are part of the ongoing relationship between the two strategic partners.
Vita Group CEO, Maxine Horne commented, “Over the 21 years of Vita’s partnership with Telstra, we have worked well together to reach mutually beneficial outcomes – strategically, operationally and commercially. After all, it is in our joint interests to do so. We remain focused on delivering on our strategic plan and doing what we do best – which is out-performing, out-executing and out-servicing to make Vita Group a great place to be for customers, team members, partners and investors alike.”


The CEO Maxine Horne seems to speak plainly and effectively.

The main text however is a torrent of new-speak.

e.g.

" it has agreed changes" ...... what's wrong with agreeing "to" changes ?
" incentivise" ........ one of my pettest hates
"Vita will accelerate its physical optimisation program" ...... will close some stores and open some new ones
"net impact of these changes on earnings is difficult to determine" ......... we don't know what we're doing
"expects to see volume improvement overall, offset by some margin compression" ...... we hope to sell more, at lower profit

Don Watson, where are you !!!

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In Reply To: henrietta's post @ Nov 20 2016, 10:11 PM

J

Most likely the journo was thinking of "prodigy" (?).

With so many newbies in the team Warner and Hazlewood need to show some leadership (Warner by not throwing his wicket away and Hazlewood by getting some top order batsmen out early on). Wade and Maddison both seem to have got the nod for thier mongrel rather than their form. Lyon needs to bag a heap otherwise he's gone too apparently. Also apparently the young pommy protege (sic) from Qld is in line to open with Davo (remember how Pup was allowed to hide away at 5 (?) even long after he had become the gun batsman in the team, not for this kid, thrown in the deep end from day one).

Anyway all is good, change is good



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henrietta
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English born Queensland opener Matt Renshaw, 20, is the bolter of the group of new players joining the Test team. Hailing from Middlesbrough and a mate of Joe Root, the protege debuted in Shield cricket at 18 and confirmed his credentials with a solid century in the audition game which ended today.


" protege " ??? Does Peter Lalor actually mean " debutante ", because I can't make sense of his use of the word protege.

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ps I don't fancy Australia's chances with the new blokes

 
 


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